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This is a quick partial transcript of Torri Higginson’s live interview on January 30th at http://www.dtrn.co.uk/, which will probably be available for download on January 31st. Torri sounded wonderful. Now I can see why fans enthuse so much about her. She talks about how she got into acting, Stargate Atlantis, and how she found out Weir was leaving the show...

 

Feel free to link to this post but please don’t copy elsewhere. Thanks!

 

How did she get into acting? Her mother was a theater actor so Torri and her sister swore as kids that they’d never do that as it was pretty tough. Because she loved languages, she decided - “and I know this sounds really nerdy, I wanted to be a Shakespeare text coach.” So she went over to England to study and watched a teacher for about a month and a half, and thought “what a great thing to do for three years.” So she fell into it by accident.

 

She didn’t have any trepidations about that at age 18 as her family is from Wales and spent a lot of time going back and forth. She felt very comfortable in Britain. Her parents were very supportive of her decision and the move, and continue to support her. And her sister is working in childrens’ television.

 

Once she left the Guild Hall, she returned to Canada, which she did regret a bit as she had an agent in the UK. She does sort of regret that, wondering what would have happened if she’d stayed in London and done a bit more theater. But “you never know…”

 

The English Patient. The director wanted Canadian actors as the story was by a Canadian, and she on very well with the director, who said at the end of the interview they chatted for 45 minutes. British auditions are very different from North America. In Canada, you go in, do one scene, and barely talk with the director. In Britain, “it’s much more civilized.” The director assumes you know what you’re doing, and then gets to know the actor. Afterwards, despite her small part, she knew she’d ‘made it’ when in an episode of Seinfeld, they referenced her.

 

How did she get her part on Stargate Atlantis? Torri said she shot “Rising” before she shot her last guest appearance as Weir on Stargate SG-1. She was living in Los Angeles when she got the call. She said doing a spinoff is “always a bit scary” and SGA was really a spinoff of a spinoff. “To be on a series concerns me, because as an actor it’s tough one to do, because you’re not given a lot of time. The pace of it is so fast. You’re not given a lot of creative time. You just have to say your lines, hit your mark… this would have been the third series I’ve done so, yeah, I was reticent on a lot of levels.” She also had to move to Vancouver, so she had hesitations as to a series, the move, plus the scifi thing. “And I said yes, and I’m glad I did. I had crazy good fun.”

 

Although she used to say Stargate was her introduction to science fiction, then people remind her about Tekwar and other jobs and she went “oh yeah.” “I guess for me it was hammered into my brain, as an actor, you don’t act, you react to what the other person’s giving you. In sci-fi, the world is so ‘out there’ and most of the time you’re dealing with a green screen. You’re not even dealing with a person so it took away, in my mind, all the joy of acting and I thought ‘oh, this isn’t going to be fun. This is going to be hit the mark, say your line, and look scared. And there’s going to be nothing creative about it. And it was wonderful. It was a huge learning curve. And actually what it was demanding of me was to go back to my imagination and to play. To create that reality myself. I’ve got great respect and ‘newfound love’ for the science fiction world,” she said in a laughing voice.

 

“I get crazy proud,” she said, when told that many fans view her as a strong female character in the scifi genre. She used to laugh with Lexa (Doig) from SG-1 and Lexa would say “well, most of my fan mail comes from men in jail” and Torri would counter that most of hers comes from young women all over the world. “Just fantastic letters” thanking her for being a strong female character. And she’d never expected that as she was frustrated by Elizabeth’s seeming lack of strength. “I feel terribly grateful. I’m really proud of that.”

 

Did Torri bring “feistiness” to Elizabeth Weir? Torri laughed. She thinks “all the spaces in between the lines is what she brought to the character, and many fan letters pointed that out. Torri was always trying to bring more to Weir during those pauses. She was frustrated with how Weir was being written; she wasn’t being active, instead was passive, so how could she be a leader. Weir is much more patient than Torri, “much more measured than I am, and definitely much brighter!” Torri laughed, then spilled some coffee in her lap.

 

Stargate Atlantis season three was brought up, and how the series has stepped out of SG-1’s shadow. Although the show had different writers, etc. they used to joke they had the same cast (we had the black guy, “McKay is Carter,” etc.) But they were played by very different actors which created a very different dynamic, and the fact that they were cut off from Earth in season one created a different dynamic as well.

 

How did Torri find out, and react, to finding out Elizabeth Weir was being written out of Stargate Atlantis? “Honestly? I found that quite shitty, to be honest (laughs).Oops. But I found out, because I kept going to them, I kept going up to them saying ‘I have a feeling my character, you’re not doing anything with me, and you guys have me for six years and I don’t want to, you know, be here not doing anything. Let me know what’s going on.’ And they kept saying “no, no, no, it’s great. We love you. We love you. Things can be great.’ And I said ‘well, if that’s the case, can we do something with her’ and they kept reassuring me that nothing - and the very last day of filming season three, as I finished filming the last scene on the last day I was called up to the office and was told that my character was going to become recurring if I chose to be. So, I thought that was not very, um, dignified, way to deal with it, and I was a bit surprised. So I was—so my reaction was one of yeah, I was a little bit surprised. I was a little bit upset by how it was dealt with. But I wasn’t upset at the decision because I understood it. I kept going to them saying ‘I get, I get what’s going to happen, just give me some notice so I can pack my apartment and move back to L.A. Really. So I wasn’t upset with the decision. I was upset with how it was handled.”

 

Question: And now Amanda Tapping seems to be doing exactly the same… just filing an episode. Torri said “Well, no. I understand that it’s a club, and you know, some people.. .you know. I think they didn’t like me constantly rapping on the doors saying ‘excuse me, why aren’t there any women writers or any women producers on the show?’ I think it bothered them. And so, Amanda, bless her, just had a kid so... bless her, man, she needs that gig more than [me]… you know what I mean? So I have no issues with any of them. I understand how it works. It is a bit of a political game and… I’m not very good at politics (laughs). I’m like Weir. I just want to act.”

 

She is continually amazed by fan support. She finds it amazing. People say the kindest things. She gets very interesting letters, breaking down the character. “I’m just amazed. I really am. I feel very lucky.”

 

Weir returned at the finale of “Be All My Sins Remember’d” – what can fans expect for the remainder of season 4? She said the interviewer probably had a better idea than she did (laughs) and “you will probably know before I do, so drop me an email when you get a hint, because I really have no idea,” she laughed. She went to them, asking if Weir would evil, or what, but they didn’t know. “I don’t think they know even if they’re going to ask me back or not. Nothing has been decided.” Torri kept saying “You’re not going to make this fantastic leather jacket for just one two-second scene. That would be crazy! So if that’s the case, can I have the jacket?”

 

Quick fun question. If Elizabeth Weir could solve the Writers Guild strike, how would she do it? Torri thought it was a good question. “I’d need a writer to answer that question for me,” she laughed, “because I’m not Elizabeth Weir.” She thinks Weir is good at letting people find compassion for the other side, but it’s “not about compassion, this strike, it’s about points. It’s businessmen in suits, so, she’d get them all drunk?” Or “throw them through the gate.”

 

And that’s it.

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Date: 2008-01-31 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tringasolitaria.livejournal.com
Thank you for that - I was hoping someone would put a transcript up.

Interesting interview. I hope her frankness doesn't hurt her chances of coming back, but I can't say as I blame her. Sounds like the whole thing really was not handled all that well. :S

Date: 2008-01-31 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
If the producers have any brains, they'd see that she wasn't griping about the decision, but how it was done. I dare say it sounds like they did hte same thing with Paul McGillion. He finishes a scene, they call him up and go, 'we need to shake up ratings, beckett's toast' or something like that. Sigh... maybe the producers should attend a Dale Carnegie course on their time off ;)

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Date: 2008-01-31 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphs.livejournal.com
Ok, I freaking love that interview. Fantastic. Thanks so much for transcribing it :)

I love how she was so open about how she felt when she was told she was gone. Shitty is exactly right!

get them all drunk
Amen sista! :P

Date: 2008-01-31 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
You're welcome. :)

Date: 2008-01-31 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toasteronfire.livejournal.com
My icon says it all, really.

The more I hear about what happened with Torri the less I think of TPTB. She wants her character to get more screentime, they assure her everything is fine, and then she gets dumped. Sounds a lot like Joe F's attempts to be more involved with his character and the show - he was also largely pushed aside and ignored by TPTB.

And you're completely right Torri, Stargate TPTB is a old boys club. Both shows have an underlying stink of sexism and female objectification.

Thank you prion for transcribing this. :)

Date: 2008-02-01 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
You're welcome. Alas, for years I have heard that Hollywood, etc. is a boys club, and it definitely seems that way at Bridge :(

Date: 2008-01-31 04:00 am (UTC)
ext_1328: (Rodney)
From: [identity profile] l-jade.livejournal.com
Thank you for this :)

I'm sad that Torri is "just one of them" guys that gets shoved like that,.... I'm still feel bitter about Teryl Rothery, Corin Nemec & Paul, and now her :(

Date: 2008-02-01 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
Well, Corin was lucky in that his character didn't die. Fraiser, Selmac, Daniel (temporarily), Carson (??) all got bumped off. And Ford just vanished. I hope that fate doesn't befall Weir

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Date: 2008-01-31 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkrosetiger.livejournal.com
I think they didn’t like me constantly rapping on the doors saying ‘excuse me, why aren’t there any women writers or any women producers on the show?’ I think it bothered them.

My love for Torri--which was already pretty great--has just grown three sizes.

Date: 2008-01-31 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlings-id.livejournal.com
I missed this... thank you for the transcript! She's one of my absolute favorite people, and I think it's really unfair how TPTB are treating her.

Date: 2008-01-31 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
I don't think TPTB are evil or anything, but it sure sounds like they need to learn how to deal with people.

Date: 2008-01-31 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musing-mia.livejournal.com
Thanks for posting this. I haven't watched SGA in over a season and a half. I didn't like what they were doing to Weir. I didn't like the way she wasn't there, but she was supposed to be the leader of Atlantis. Hearing what they did to her, how unprofessional and shitty they were, justifies my decision to move on.

I wish Torri all the best and hope she makes it back to DragonCon.

Date: 2008-02-01 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dana-carter-sgx.livejournal.com
I agree with you, 'unprofessional' is the exact word to define the way TBTP deal with their actors.

Is refreshing to hear people like Torri, so open and sincere.

And I also find myself missing Weir's presence a lot, although at first she wasn't one of my favourite characters (with all the unused potential and all... damn TPTB!)

Date: 2008-01-31 05:28 am (UTC)
havocthecat: the lady of shalott (dandelion wish)
From: [personal profile] havocthecat
Thanks for the transcription. It's wonderful that you were able to do that for us.

Date: 2008-02-01 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
You're welcome.

Date: 2008-01-31 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irony-rocks.livejournal.com
Thank you for posting this. Just shows the Torri has ten times the class that the PTB have. *sigh*

Date: 2008-01-31 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miera-c.livejournal.com
Thanks for posting this.

And the world SO needs more scifi (tv especially) WRITTEN BY GIRLS DAMMIT.

Date: 2008-01-31 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] racethewind10.livejournal.com
HELL yes! *coughs* sorry. But yes, I agree.

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Date: 2008-01-31 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlantis-babe34.livejournal.com
Thanks for this

TBTP have a great way of solving probelms.. like all men have.

We Miss you Torri!

Date: 2008-01-31 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] racethewind10.livejournal.com
Thank you for posting *revives a bit of Torri fan!girl* *g*

Date: 2008-02-01 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
I've become a much bigger fan after hearing her talk.

Date: 2008-01-31 07:11 am (UTC)
ext_166211: This is me (Default)
From: [identity profile] poundpuppy-29.livejournal.com
Thank you for the transcript. I hope they give Weir a happy ending cuz I don't think Torri wants to come back full time after the way they treated her. I really appreciate her honesty. Atlantis has not been the same this year for me. It's been off and Sam doesn't fit. I did comment on JM's Blog but I don't think what we say matters anyway. I don't think he's a bad person but these issues were handled badly but it's not just him remember.

Date: 2008-02-01 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
No, I don't think Sam really fits. I'm not sure what's going on but Sam has felt 'off' ever since she came on.

Date: 2008-01-31 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubiquitous-girl.livejournal.com
*giggles at the last*

Thank you so much for the transcript!

Date: 2008-02-01 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
You're welcome :)

Date: 2008-01-31 03:15 pm (UTC)
nialla: (TPTB)
From: [personal profile] nialla
I think they didn’t like me constantly rapping on the doors saying ‘excuse me, why aren’t there any women writers or any women producers on the show?’ I think it bothered them.

It should bother them that Bridge has become synonymous with "boy's locker room" mentality. What's sad is they don't realize it or don't care, and apparently actually think they're writing strong female characters.

Thanks for the transcript. I'd always thought they'd treated her like shit in the exit of Weir (and I'm not even a huge fan of the character, but I like TPTB even less), but it's nice to have it confirmed.

Date: 2008-02-01 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
There's definitely a 'boy's club' attitude at Bridge; and alas, it crosses into the scripts with the pre-teen humor you got in "Irresponsible."

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Date: 2008-01-31 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terri-osborne.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for this. I hope her actually having the guts to say it like it is doesn't hurt her for Season 5.

Date: 2008-02-01 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
Hopefully she'll be okay, and I'd love to see her in movies and such if SGA isn't in her future.

Date: 2008-01-31 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pavaneofstars.livejournal.com
Thanks for posting the transcript. It's just awful how tptb treated Torri. :(

Date: 2008-02-01 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
You're welcome.

Date: 2008-01-31 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-xan.livejournal.com
Thank you for this! With GW down, I knew you would have any Stargate scoop. :)

It's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out for season 5, especially with the AT news.

Date: 2008-02-01 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
No problem.

Date: 2008-01-31 04:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] delux-vivens.livejournal.com
Thanks for the transcription.

I hope someday we can get equally frank discussions from Rachel and Jason about their parts.

Date: 2008-02-01 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
Yeah, from all the cast, really.

Date: 2008-01-31 05:56 pm (UTC)
aelfgyfu_mead: (Rodney&Carson)
From: [personal profile] aelfgyfu_mead
Thanks for posting this. The producers/writers handled firing Torri even worse than I'd thought. Torri's been quite restrained in talking about it. I still love some of the characters, but I have a love-hate relationship with the show.

The way they treated her totally stinks, and knowing that she's not the only one they treated poorly really doesn't help! I'm so frustrated--how hard would it be to treat the cast decently, to write the characters better (making cast and many fans happy), and just not be jerks?

Date: 2008-02-01 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
I think if they wrote the characters properly, they wouldn't have the need to kill off characters to boost ratings ...

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Date: 2008-01-31 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gategrrl.livejournal.com
I came to your post through Nialla's LJ. Unbelievable. No, okay, her treatment IS believable, and the amount of politicking there must be amazing.

I wonder what Tapping did to get Tori's job. Other than be the woman and be formerly pregnant.

Tori's the much better actor - she had few opps to do action, but when she had them, she was outstanding. Bridge sucks bigtime.

Date: 2008-02-01 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
I have no idea of the politicking at Bridge, but like any studio, it exists. However, the cast changes that went on at SGA are a LOT more than other shows.

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Date: 2008-01-31 06:25 pm (UTC)
ext_2193: ([misc] fuck you nicely - torri higginson)
From: [identity profile] sugargroupie.livejournal.com
The interview was lovely to hear, and thank you for your transcribe. Torri is adorable.

Date: 2008-02-01 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
You're welcome. yes, she seems very sweet.

Date: 2008-01-31 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fritters.livejournal.com
Thanks a LOT for the transcript!

Date: 2008-02-01 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
You're welcome :)

Date: 2008-02-01 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pisces227.livejournal.com
Thanks for the info. Torri is a class act, to bad TPTB didn't treat her as one. I miss her.

Date: 2008-02-01 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyniko.livejournal.com
Oh wow.... Torri finally said what she really felt about JM & PM's decision. *eg*

She'd been so polite & they'd ignored her, now she's said what she's felt, so let's see if they bring her back.... (which I doubt they will, because PM & JM never admit to making a mistake!)

Because, oh gee, Amanda Tapping is moving over more to Sanctuary.

Date: 2008-02-01 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
I'd prefer that AT leave SGA entirely, because Carter just isn't doing much on the show except being a showpiece, that is, when she actually is on the show, and it sounds like she'll have even less screentime in season 5.

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