Robert Carlyle on Stargate Universe, Take Two

[wraithfodder]

Hmm, yanked this off Mallozzi's blog tonight (12/15/2008) ... "As some of you may have heard, the wonderfully talented Robert Carlyle has signed on to join the crew of the Destiny in the upcoming Stargate: Universe series. The award-winning actor - Begbie from Trainspotting to some, Hamish Macbeth to others - will be playing the role of Dr. David Rush, the ship’s brilliant Machiavellian scientist. I see a lot of myself in Rush and, next to yours truly of course, I can’t imagine anyone better for the part. Contrary to initial reports, the Rush character is not the leader of the unplanned expedition. That honor falls to Colonel Everett Young. For now. But things could have a way of changing on board a ship manned by a disparate group with very different agendas…

hmm, hmmm, uh....

Somehow a character which is a lot of Joe Mallozzi DOES NOT inspire me to watch..

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[harriet-spy.livejournal.com]

I was going to say: way to take the joy out of the casting!

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

Yup ;)

[kimberlyfdr.livejournal.com]

What happened to "we're skewing younger, you as an audience are too old for us." As much as I like Robert Carlyle, he's older than the SGA cast as a whole. WTF?

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

well, they are, with the bulk of the cast. need to have one 'old geezer' around. ;) (said with all due respect). He's 47, I think, and yes, older than anybody on SGA, but younger than RDA.

[anjak-j.livejournal.com]

Oh dear god...

I was going to start a betting pool on what episode Carlyle's character buys the farm.

Now I have my money on Col. Young buying the farm inside the first three episodes...

[aelfgyfu_mead]

If you're starting a pool, can I take episode 10, assuming they have a mid-season hiatus?

[dovil.livejournal.com]

You mean the scientist on the ship is going to have a difficult personality? Next thing we'll know is that Colonel Young will be a rebel but will sacrifice everything for his team... :)

[berry-hearts.livejournal.com]

and there will be trigger happy-scientist, a kind alien and and a girl.

[nakedwesley.livejournal.com]

BAHAHAHAHAHA!

[aelfgyfu_mead]

The looks on Rodney and Daniel's faces in your icon sum up my reaction pretty well.

I didn't know Mallozzi was "a brilliant Machiavellian scientist"!

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

Well, Gero likes to think he'd get the girl too ;)

[nakedwesley.livejournal.com]

I feel sorry for whoever is cast as Everett Young. He'll be the Flanigan to Carlyle's Hewlett...if his character lives long enough, that is.

Good thing they're going for the younger audience...you know, the ones who have never heard of Carlyle or seen The Full Monty.

I am now imagining Dr. Rush running around the ship dressed in a purple pinstripe three piece suit. Gah!

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

Well, that'll give me nightmares! ;)

[spike21.livejournal.com]

AUUUUUUGH!!! *imagines Begbie tearing through a certain writing room with a boxcutter*

[onecheekyhobbit.livejournal.com]

I hate him. But I love Robert Carlyle.

*sigh*
K

[highonstargate.livejournal.com]

*Goes on a rampage through the writers room, dissecting all the papers she could find*

gah

[strange-magic.livejournal.com]

Honestly, how hard is it to come up with NEW character personalities? They make it seem like SG can ONLY be SG with those same 4-6 personalities. People DO get bored of watching the SAME thing over and over, especially when it's suppose to be a NEW series.

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

Honestly, there is probably a formula they use at Bridge Studios in which they say 'we have xxx characters, who must fall into these four categories, because that is what the viewing audience wants." Time will tell if it will work.

[tringasolitaria.livejournal.com]

LOL! Col Everett Young, known in a previous life as Col Marshall Sumner.

Also, I'm getting an odd feeling Dr Rush may turn out to be a Baltar type of character. They are going for the BSG angle after all.

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

While I liked the actor, I did not care for Baltar at all (that is, in the half dozen epsiodes I may have watched).

[nialla]

Somehow a character which is a lot of Joe Mallozzi DOES NOT inspire me to watch.

It inspires me to vomit.

I find it interesting how so many Brits are excited about the casting of Carlyle, while most American viewers are saying they've never heard of him or only vaguely know of some of his works once they look him up at IMDB.

He's not a "name actor" in the American market. That's not anything against those in other countries, but it is a fact that North America is the primary market as far as Sci Fi is concerned.

They'll be ponying up quite a bit of dough for this, so I can't see them really caring if foreign viewers recognize the "name actor" though MGM might have bigger vision about that aspect since they're aware of the worldwide fanbase and can market there.

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

He might be a name actor in some genres. He did "28 weeks later" (or was it days?) anyway, he was in that zombie horror flick. It does make you wonder about the 'name actor' because, well, most US fans will go 'who' but over in Europe, it might be a different thing altogether.

[kimberweeme.livejournal.com]

Serious. Even if I'd wanted to watch (which I didn't), I wouldn't just knowing that fact. That man gets on my last nerve. (I deleted his blog from my feed because it just made me angry every single day.)

[jacksmsstargate.livejournal.com]

Ok, nothing I have read so far is inspiring me to even care who they are casting and especially not Robert whats-his-name.
Never heard of him and don't care to see where he takes the next incarnation of Stargate.

[graculus.livejournal.com]

Given Mallozzi's rabid personality failings, I'd hate to see what he was like if he really was Machiavellian. ;)

[lady-xan.livejournal.com]

LOL at your icon...

My question is, how much bigger will JM's ego get?

[nialla]

At this point, it's dangerously close to the point of gravitational collapse and forming a black hole (previously known as his writing career).

[roxy-palace.livejournal.com]

So much for the hot young cast then...What the hell are they playing at?

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

the original PR was "mostly young and desperate explorers" so I guess this character falls into the not young category. It's possible that this character was created after months of fans grumbling "Stargate: 90210" ;)

[duffy-99.livejournal.com]

And this is *exactly* what's been wrong with the writing this season. Can someone please tell Mallozzi and Gero that the very best writing comes when you are not basing on your characters on some bizarro fantasyland vision of yourself?

[libra-traveller.livejournal.com]

You know this makes me think. Some writers say how they think of their characters as friends, that they get so close to them. So is Mallozzi only wanting to be friends with himself? That narcistic?

[lysambre.livejournal.com]

Wow, Mallozzi is pulling a Gero. After Gero's masturbating fantasy onscreen, we're now going to have Mallozzi's.
And the man dare compare himself to an actor such as Carlyle ? Some people's ego knows no bound.

If I had ever thought of watching SGU (which I did not), this news would definitely have killed any interest, forever.

[zikade.livejournal.com]

I think now I really should stay away from spoilers. It will be along wait for the pilot though.

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

I won't be following much in the way of spoilers on SGU - and if I do post spoilers, they'll be marked in the title so you can avoid.

[flingslass.livejournal.com]

I have one word for JM. WANKER! (Sorry Wraithfodder for the slightly off word but I can't think of another to describe the man.) I've stopped reading his blog.

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

If you can think of another word to replace that one...

I'm off

[veronicasaether.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I don't understand why you people watch Stargate at all. It seems like all you ever do is complain. The plots aren't good enough, the writing isn't good enough, the character developments are terrible, and the creators are a disgrace. (I completely and utterly disagree, btw.) If the brilliant minds behind the series are so awful, and the show sucks so much, why are you watching? I just don't get it.

I used to love following this blog, to get the latest news on Stargate related stuff, but recently there's been nothing but unjust whining and complaining about practically everything. I've never seen so much negativity, and all these unfair accusations about Mallozzi's so-called "ego" just annoys me. Am I the only one to pick up on the humorous tone in his blog? The only one to not think he means everything literally? Not to mention how the "seeing a lot of oneself in a character" doesn't necessarily mean "think of oneself as a brilliant scientist" - just another example of how everything apparently must be translated into the worst possible meaning. (And I won't even get started on the Ronon/Jennifer/Rodney plot - which was awesome.)

I wish you all the best with your decision to turn everything into something bad. I shall be looking forward to giving SGU a chance, and then, if it actually does suck, come crawling back and admit you were all right. ;)

Peace!

Re: I'm off

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

I'm going to take a look at SGU, but I don't have high expectations for it mostly because it's being done by the same people. Same writers, etc. They don't stray far from what they've already done, hence copying old scripts again and again.

My problem is that I watched Stargate SG-1 from the beginning, so know the plots they rewrite, and know that they have had better writers, and when you see professional TV critics complain about lazy writing on the show, you know it's not just a fan thing.

I do enjoy Stargate SG1 and SGA or else I wouldn't watch them. Sure, there are a handful of episodes of each that I rarely rewatch due to quality. I do think SGU will probably get off to a rip-roaring start, but then, like the stock market, take a dive. It's that way when a lot is put into the pilot (as in $$$) but not as much into the series.

As for Mallozzi, well, I've followed his blogs (yes, he's had several) over the years, and his humor is, at times, quite debatable ;) Bu the does excel at leading on the fans :)

[tavabean.livejournal.com]

I get the feeling that, rather than it being too expensive to produce SGA and SGU, it was too expensive to produce SGU in the manner in which Wright and Cooper planned, and have to worry about funding Atlantis at the same time. I would just bet, that if you factor in Carlyle's salary, in addition to the other actors salaries, new sets and CGI, it will be more expensive than a 6th season of Atlantis.
They just didn't want Atlantis anymore and it was kicked to the curb. Saying the SGA actor's salaries were the cause is obviously a misstatement.

[wraithfodder.livejournal.com]

That's scary, cuz I was thinking about that earlier today. I would hazard a guess that Carlyle would cost as much if not more than Flanigan... of course, the rest of the cast on SGU may work for peanuts (or Loonies) ;) while David Hewlett was probably worth a pretty penny. I do think that $$$ definitely came into the whole mess. I think fans would have accepted the cancellation a LOT better had Skiffy, etc. not been there less than 24 hours crowing about the marvelous new SGU show that we're all going to enjoy so much. Sigh.