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Ah, SciFiWire posted this article today.... highlighted the relevant portions.

NEW SG-1, Atlantis films due, just not yet

Stargate Universe executive producer Robert C. Cooper has written scripts for a new potential Stargate SG-1 movie and a Stargate Atlantis film, but said it might be a while before they get a green light.

 

"We're ready to go," Cooper said in an exclusive interview over the weekend in Pasadena, Calif., where he was promoting SGU at the Television Critics Association summer press tour. "We're just waiting for the right opportunity," he said. "We want to be successful with it. The studio wants to be successful, and we really don't want to proceed with something in the wrong climate, which I think financially it is right now."

Two previous SG-1 straight-to-DVD movies, Continuum and The Ark of Truth, sold well, but the current economic downturn makes DVD premieres less lucrative than they were in the past.

"It's tough, because we were very successful with the first two SG-1 movies," Cooper said. "Since then, the economics have changed a little bit. DVDs aren't selling the same way they were when we released those even just a year, and a year and a half ago."

A new compilation of Stargate Atlantis episodes, Fans' Choice, just dropped on Blu-ray on Aug. 4, featuring the pilot "Rising" and an extended cut of "Enemy at the Gate." That won't help Cooper mount a new production.

"That, obviously, is already produced," Cooper said. "Putting it on DVD or Blu-ray is not the same as the investment it would take to start from scratch."

Should the two DVD films be made, they would follow previous entries in having independent storylines that would not affect the upcoming Syfy original series SGU. "They would stand alone," Cooper said. "The Atlantis one takes place shortly after the end of season five. The SG-1, I think, takes place sometime in an intermediary period between when the SG-1 movies left off and when Universe began."

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Basically, they're saying not much, nothing we already didn't know. It's sorta bizarre that Cooper goes "I think" about a movie. I mean, they're in the position to know the most about the movies as they're writing them! *headdesk* I"m not holding out much for an SGA movie. I hope the actors find more work and then TPTB have to work around the actors' schedules!

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Date: 2009-08-13 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
I'd hope that SyFy (or SciFi) could report semi-accurately from the TCA on one of its own shows... however, the longer they wait, the more fans (or paying public) drift away...

Date: 2009-08-13 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com
I will believe it when I see it

I also wonder how JM's vendetta against JF will fit in all this given Sheppard's vital role in SGA.....

I find Cooper's 'economic downturn' kind of hilarious given they obviously had the $$$ to do SGU........

Date: 2009-08-13 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
My feeling is that yes, the DVD downturn (which I'd read about in Variety) is real. However, I also think that with SG-1 gone, with BSG gone, with SGA going into a sixth year with contract renewals and salary increases, the studios went, hey, let's do a series that combines both SG and BSG, and well, we'll need money for it, so, down came the axe on SGA. As for Mallozzi, I rarely visit his blog anymore (and somehow, feel better for it!) ;)

Date: 2009-08-13 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com
I only visited his blog once and that particular time
there was someone frothing about how 'grateful' she was that
he had warned SGA fans about Flanigan.....
That was enough for me.
His fat ego displayed lavishly on his blog and her comments
which lead me to believe JM was trashing JF on his blog, was
enough for me to pull the plug on any further visits.

link

Date: 2009-08-14 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] domjohn.livejournal.com
Hi
Could you give the link concerning this declaration about Joe Flanigan?
I know the JM blog and I've never gone to coz I don't appreciate this man coz his behavior.
I know this man avoid to name Joe F on his blog and never answering to all question about the lead actor.
Shame and lame.
Do you know when he made this declaration?
Thanks for your answer.

Re: link

Date: 2009-08-14 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com
I checked all of JM's archives and could never find his remark, but
he must have made one for her to thank him profusely for the warning
I have heard nothing but good reports about him.....very accommodating....
It kind of annoys me to think he is demeaning JF on his blog,
but that is what small people do, isn't it?

Re: JM versus JF

Date: 2009-08-17 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vote4mein2024.livejournal.com
Hey... I'm also interested in what went down between JF and JM. I came late to the fandom, and even later to JM's blog, so I never knew JM before he stopped mentioning/photographing JF. All I know is that I wouldn't have given SGA a second glance without JF and his unique acting style and strangely hott hairdo (and okay, I'll stop gushing now). But I really enjoy when JM posts pictures of the actors (rare occasions that they are) and found myself wishing for some of JF, a wish that was never granted (although I did manage to find some in the archives). So, just curious for those who were around then, what happened?
I know about MS and the 6th season of SG-1, but they must have subsequently worked something out, because JM has nothing but nice things to say about MS.
Oh, and re: SGU: I'm going to watch it. Not for RC and BW or any of the other writers/producers, but rather to support the actors. They managed to snag some of my favorite little-known actors (and two of my favorite WELL-known ones as well) and I don't want *them* to lose their jobs just because they went to work for people who didn't have SGA's best interests at heart.

Sorry for such a long comment and forgive me; I'm a N00B!

Re: JM versus JF

Date: 2009-08-17 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
I never saw any post/mention myself, but then rarely read Mallozzi's blog. I think if anything did occur between JF and JM, it's behind the scenes, and we as fans are not privy to it.

Re: JM versus JF

Date: 2009-08-17 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If it's beind the scenes - how do people know about it?

Re: JM versus JF

Date: 2009-08-18 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
I honestly don't know.

Date: 2009-08-13 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katikat.livejournal.com
Jumpin' in ;)

given they obviously had the $$$ to do SGU

And the fact that SGA's S5 has sold more copies so far than SG-1's S10!

Date: 2009-08-13 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com
**nods** and what about The People's Choice?
I guess that counts for nothing too??

Date: 2009-08-13 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patk.livejournal.com
Not to mention that they put in $ 1 mio *more* in each SGU-ep than they did with SGA - like Wright himself stated in an interview. Ahem ... yes, I can see where the money for possible movies ended up. *snerk*

Date: 2009-08-13 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com
***nods***
that was my intent when I said they seem to have found the
$$$$$ to do SGU didn't they???
IMO it is like the story about the guy who got rid of his
car because his ashtrays were full.
If they wanted new, then why on earth did they not do something
with the writing?????.......
Wraith and Replicators seemed to be their ONLY theme.......
Like there was nothing/nobody else.......in Pegasus.
Their writing left track somewhere and never regained momentum save for Vegas, and I believe like Joe stated in an interview, 'kind of late'
Finally, what makes me laugh is SGU actors are all tripping over themselves like they discovered something 'brand new'.....
HELLO!!!!
been there, done that, just different crew and from what I can see
nothing there to interest me in the least.
Also if I were those SGU actors, I would watch my back for incoming and my feet for carpets that are literally pulled out when you least expect it.

Date: 2009-08-13 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheafrotherdon.livejournal.com
I don't believe a word of it. SGU has $1 million more *per episode* than they had for SGA. That's a movie right there.

Date: 2009-08-13 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patk.livejournal.com
Yes! Yes! That! Exactly!

Date: 2009-08-13 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimmerdeux.livejournal.com
I'm confused; Cooper's written the scripts for both movies? But JM said on his blog that he and Paul were commissioned and wrote the script for the SGA movie and that they were to 'produce' it (which I found odd, since where were JM and PM going to get enough money to produce anything?)

I still would so love to hear that someone else has taken on the SGA movie.

Bad writing

Date: 2009-08-13 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watcher652.livejournal.com
...Robert C. Cooper has written scripts for a new potential Stargate SG-1 movie and a Stargate Atlantis film...

That's not Cooper writing the scripts, that's Copper with scripts that have been written.

That's poor editing of the sentence.

Re: Bad writing

Date: 2009-08-13 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimmerdeux.livejournal.com
Ah, thank you, now I see it. That makes much more sense although I think I'd rather have Cooper write the script for the SGA movie. LOL

Date: 2009-08-13 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com
If JM is involved then we know what that means for JF.....
Sheppard might as well ask for a transfer......

Date: 2009-08-13 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immertreu.livejournal.com
You have got to be kidding me... Why can't these people make up their minds??

It's always about money, but I'm sure if they really wanted, they could make both (!) movies - easily.

Date: 2009-08-13 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysambre.livejournal.com
We're just waiting for the right opportunity," he said. "We want to be successful with it. The studio wants to be successful, and we really don't want to proceed with something in the wrong climate

He says the bad climate is financial, I say they never imagined that so many SGA fans would actually decide to cut all string with them. They pompously announced a year ago that we would "get over it" as has always been done in the past. So far yes, some have, but many have not, and those are lost customers. Assume your bad decisions Mr Cooper instead of blaming it on the financial situation.

If the financial climate was so bad, they would not have put $20 millions more than in SGA5 to produce the new show. By making it so expensive to begin with, and being is such a "bad financial climate" they are essentially telling everyone : enjoy this one, it won't last long.

I think Cooper is trying to appease the fans, but they might very well be too far gone.
He says he's writing the script, but wasn't Malozzi doing that ? Trouble in paradize ? Trying to appease the many who can't stand Malozzi ? (Sorry, but my life got so much better after I stopped reading his blog, I can only assume it happened to others).

As far as I'm concerned they can keep their SGA movie and I really hope all the actors find great jobs that keep them really really busy, in fact too busy to have time to do a "potential maybe eventual if all turns right" movie.

And someone reminds Mr Cooper than in ten years it'll be too late to pretend the action is happening just at the end of the last horrible season, the actors will have aged ten years :p.

Date: 2009-08-13 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com
".........they never imagined that so many SGA fans would actually decide to cut all string with them..."

Exactly!!!
They thought we were the mindless minions who would immediately redirect to their new project.........
I think not.

Date: 2009-08-13 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katikat.livejournal.com
I hope the actors find more work and then TPTB have to work around the actors' schedules!

Ha! With the way they treat them? I bet that if the actor was unavailable, they would just cut him out of the movie. After all, they are convinced that the actors don't add much to the success of the franchise *snorts*

Date: 2009-08-13 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chensuu.livejournal.com
I thought Mallozzi said he wrote the Atlantis movie and now suddenly Cooper did? Of course I might be wrong but either way it sounds like more lies to placate the masses to me.
From: [identity profile] black-raven135.livejournal.com
yeah keep us believing that if we just support SGU we might end up with SGA........
Now there's an original thought, dufus but original eh?
If I want gold I'm not taking tin instead.

No-movie

Date: 2009-08-13 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] domjohn.livejournal.com
How can they tell us they don't have money to produce the movie after telling us at comic con 2009 how big the budget they got for SGU?
How can they tell us they are waiting the good moment to lauch the movie when in August 08 they declared it was the good moment for SGA to move to this format? At this time they knew all about DVD market. Now this same market is too bad. It would seem SGA sold 100.000 in one first week.
All of this sound like big lie.
If I listen well it would not be their fault.
It will be so hard to regain the viewers trust.
You're right when we read the new cast comments LAME.
I watched the trailer and I saw the means obtained but nothing original. And they pull the plug for this.
Money don't make the success as the spec effects.
It's not what I want to find in the stargate show and too spec effect hide more often the lacks of the plots or scripts.
BOO.

Atlantis film?

Date: 2009-08-14 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I dont think it is a concidence that Robert Cooper has made this comment about the "proposed" films just before the fans meet at the next convension in August.

I honestly belive that the Stargate franchise has never had any intension of making an Atlantis film but they didnt want a backlash against their new project "Universe" so they told fans there would be a film to try to keep us happy in the hope that we would like Universe so much that we wouldnt bother too much about the Atlantis cancellation. When I really think about it - look at the name of the Atlantis film - "Extinction". I think that sums it up for Atlantis. Talk about disrespecting the fans. I think that the "suits" forget that we are the people who keep up the viewing figures and buy the merchandise. Shame on you Stargate for treating us this way its just not right...

deciphering

Date: 2009-08-17 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
2nd paragraph:
"We're just waiting for the right opportunity."

What does that mean?

And the longer they wait...isn't it more likely they start losing the current fan base that would be purchasing the DVD?

Re: deciphering

Date: 2009-08-18 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
Eh, have no idea. It's hard to get a straight word from the studio.

Re: deciphering

Date: 2009-08-19 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyniko.livejournal.com
Acc. to Shaddyr's "inside source" - http://shaddyr.livejournal.com/245588.html

The horse's ass himself, Wright says, "There's not enough fan interest for an SGA move..."

Date: 2009-08-21 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djlmarks.livejournal.com
GODDAMMIT! What stoopid suit at Sy "this no longer means Science Fiction" Fy chooses to ignore it's key audience??

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